Monday, June 4, 2007

What is going on over there?

I swear, madness has set in, it's as bad as the DB boards at the HK review comments. Barbara, I commend your efforts in doing research on the books, looking at the other reviews, Publishers Weekly, etc. It might help a potential purchaser think twice about taking those reviews seriously, but the counter effort by another commentator is really beyond belief. And what about those three groupies adoring every word said?

BTW, JJJS and myself have both had a comment removed from a GH review, where we were documenting the times and vote counts. I wonder if it was considered spam somehow?

21 comments:

Barbara Delaney said...

Fortunately, I don't actually know what's going on, I know it's been ugly but I don't know details.

Politically I'm probably fairly far to the left of most of you. I've been an anti-war protester for years, have worked and volunteered on political and social action campaigns and have seen all the hatred the right wing can throw at those who disagree with them. I've been physically roughed up by men at rallies. These people are undoubtedly huge admirers of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, etc.

I have a friend and co-worker who's active in GLBT groups online. In order to avoid burnout and needless stress we have worked out a plan where he posts his comments at sites and then I read the responses passing on to him only the ones he needs to see. He does the same for me. That way I see KrossD's comments and everybody else's who are not trolls but don't have to wade through the muck.

Misfit said...

LOL, I'm being quoted over there, as is Appiphany's (sp?) previous comment.

Stephanie said...
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Stephanie said...

Barbara,

For the record, I am a conservative and you don't see me acting like 'that' person. And I am not a fan of Rush Limbaugh. Bill O'Reilly is more like it!
:o)

Misfit,

How do you feel about his qoutes? I am curious about what he is reading over here. He said in one comment something about all the things being said about him. And I have looked and looked, and only found a few comments with his name mentioned. But it was nothing 'attacking' him. Weird how he is misinterpreting the comments. He obviously thinks very highly of himself. And what a hypocrite! I have a feeling there is more going on with him. His comments are really hostile. I'll bet he was a bully in school.

Barbara did absolutely nothing to deserve any of those comments. And do you guys see what he is saying? That you, Barbara, are the leader of this ring?! What is with these people thinking there is a leader?!

Misfit said...

Stephanie, he can quote me to kingdom come, I don't see where anyone has said anything nasty, just that the atmosphere was getting "ugly".

However, the diatribe going on at the HK review sight is the worst I've seen since the last days of Amazon's Lowest Rated Reviewer a few months ago. I remember he got a bit out of control and then posted some "reviews" at books that HK had reviewed, but his reviews were condemnations of HK, not a review of the book. Those were removed, as well as his comments. The current atmosphere is very reminiscent (sp?) of that time.

Everyone should be entitled to their opinion, without being needlessly attacked. KrossD sure is going to battle this morning, isn't he?

Misfit said...

So why is the comment I made on the blog this morning, "KrossD sure is going to battle this morning, isn't he?" being attributed to Barbara?

Moderator said...

All of this looks like a noise attack to me -- kinda like what happens on the 'discussion board' there. FTF surprised me though... oh well. Maybe he got bitten by a Poisonous Mosquitoe! :-)

Well, at least there aren't any of those famed Rabbit pictures... (yet!) :-)

Misfit said...

"Well, at least there aren't any of those famed Rabbit pictures.."

Please, please God, anything but that :-)

Misfit said...

Lord help us, FTF just doesn't get it. "Misfit's leaving the Barbara fold! YAY! Now we are one step closer to getting back to fun and laughter"

I have resigned from commenting on reviews at Amazon, but not from this board. Kudos to anyone who can still stomach that warzone over there. I've had it.

Susiq2 said...

Sheesh, Guys, When I left last Monday, all was quiet, and we were waiting for 14,000. Now it looks kinda' wild, and we still have not seen 14,000. I truly believe that HK HAS slowed down her reading, and thus, her reviews. Do any of you think that MAYBE HK now has gotten a life? I hope that she has found some freedom from constant reading, and writing. I am familiar with "obsessive Behavior" characteristics from 3 years of working on a Psych Unit, and HK met all of them. It is good to be back. I have missed you guys........

Stephanie said...

Welcome back Susiq2,

Have fun catching up at Amazon. FTF is on a war path. He says he wants the place to be 'fun'again. His style of 'fun' is more psychotic than anything else. He is a paranoid hypocrite. Be careful when you comment over there.

Stephanie said...

Misfit.

If you would, please reconsider your decision not to post over there. You can comment on anything you like and just ignore FTF. He gets off acting the way he does. Your supporters will be there for you just like FTF's 'groupies' are there for him. And the ones ( and there are not many of them ) that agree with him are obviously bullies just like him. The whole birds of a feather... Because whomever sees his harassing comments as humorous, there is something seriously off. Please stay :o)

Misfit said...

Stephanie, thanks for the kind words, but I'll lurk for the time being. I don't have the energy to waste on a nut case like FTF, I'd rather be reading a good book.

I'm just waiting to see how FTF misrepresents these comments. Everything he's commented about at Amazon has been incorrect and misquoted at that. I think I recall seeing something about Barbara going on a three paragraph rant about him, and her comments have been the kindest of all of us.

PS, have you read through all the comments (past 100 now) on the most recent of HK's reviews? Read carefully, if you thought someone was ##!!@@##%%##@@ stupid before, they've proved it now.

Susiq2 said...

Friends, Please don't let someone drive you away! I really enjoy being with you over on Amazon. We have been taking a stand on honest reviewing, and I believe that we have accomplished our goal. HK is posting in a normal manner, and amount. I sincerely hope that she will be able to rest, and to take some time to spend with her family. I will not read postings by someone who is cruel, or obnoxious when it is absolutely not called for. Just pick and choose whom you wish to read. Please come back............

Stephanie said...

Misfit,

I hear you. You know what I am curious about? Didn't Zena ( and I could be wrong on this ) say she was a psychologist or something? If that is the case I am wondering why she wouldn't bother to do her homework and look back at when this all started. Even is she isn't, I would think one would want to know who she is dealing with. Because one minute all was fine with FTF and then ( I can't find anything that happened ) he turned hostile towards everyone. He keeps saying that so and so said this or so and so did that. I follow these posts everyday and I can't find anything that shows anything that was against him. Now, someone will say, well, what about this or that comment. Yea, that comment was made AFTER he turned on everyone. But go back further and I dare you to find such a thing! All the comments are still there. He seems unstable to me. If I were to take a guess, I would guess that he was a loner. And when he was in school, an outcast. He probably doesn't have many friends, if any. The way he acts, saying that Barbara or whoever is acting as Amazon police and HE has a right to make any comment he wants. That is true. He can. As can everyone else. But in actuality HE is the one acting the way that he says Barbara and company is acting. It's like he has found someplace that he can be heard and he finally made some 'friends.' He accuses Barbara of being a HK stalker. Then he turns around and stalks Barbara. But it is okay for him to do it. And in the beginning he was doing the same exact thing Barbara was doing with correcting HK's reviews. Did he forget about that??

Going back to the beginning and working your way to this point, wouldn't a psychologist be able to see these things?? His attitude ( there is no humor in his comments and if there is a smile it is definitely a manic one )would be causing warning bells to go off in my head. But, then I am not a psychologist, so what do I know??

MK said...

Stephanie,

Do not assume that if someone is a psychologist that they are automatically well-balanced. Troubled persons are frequently attracted to professions dealing with psychopathology, for reasons that are not yet absolutely clear, although causes have been proposed. Of course, I'm not saying that all (or even most) psychologists, psychiatrists, etc., are nuts, just that you should not make the mistake of thinking that they are all, ipso facto, sane and/or capable of determining mental instability/disease in others. Even the most brilliant psychiatrist is still human, and is not in "diagnostic" mode 100% of the time.

I guess it goes without saying that no one should necessarily automatically accept the credentials of anyone who trumpets them over the Internet. It is one of the disadvantages of communicating with faceless Internet personalities: you never really know who you are conversing with.

MK

Stephanie said...

MK,

I understand a person could be anyone on the internet. I guess I would expect an air of maturity from someone who says they are a psychologist. I don't get that from her. Does anyone remember her saying that or am I pulling a FTF and making it up??

Misfit said...

Stephanie, I don't recall that one, but I could swear when FTF first started posting he had a bunch of reviews on Paris Hilton products (someone had commented on them), and they are now gone. I just can't believe the comments he's making, and that they aren't being deleted by Amazon.

Stephanie said...

I found it. She ( says she )majored in Nuero-Psychology.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/discussionboard/discussion.html/ref=cm_rdp_st_rd/103-2697241-6524618?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000GFLAI0&store=yourstore&cdThread=Tx2T3R5WDSYLM8&reviewID=R12KG14C421LY3&displayType=ReviewDetail

Here is her last thought to FTF:

"Sleep well; you have the vultures to be ready for. Got your back if you need me....LOL not that you do, my god you totally wipe them out with just one of your sentences."

My God! We are in danger of extinction!

Stephanie said...

Let me try pasting that address again.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/discussionboard/discussion.html/ref=cm_rdp_st_rd/103-2697241-6524618?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000GFLAI0&store=yourstore&cdThread=Tx2T3R5WDSYLM8&reviewID=R12KG14C421LY3&displayType=ReviewDetail

Misfit said...

"My God! We are in danger of extinction!"

You think? It's insanity over there, I pity KrossD and Lonnie as they try to slug through it. Too funny, they are doing what they've accused others of doing, bullying and threatening.

Funny thing #2, posted ANOTHER review today and within hours got a neg (which has been SOP for the last few weeks). A very very old out of print book I might add. As the book had multiple editions that didn't have reviews, I used my Amazon account #2 (the one I've been posting with in the last month)and posted a review there. No negs yet, we'll see.